Posts by The Fall Guy

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The Watchtower's Real Crisis

by JeffT in

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when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

Up until the early 2000's at least, (according to accounts published around that time) the org was raking in far more money in donations than its needed running costs. It was a lucrative money-making machine.

Why would the mandarins within the WTBTS issue the orders to dismantle their money-making machine? No one can provide recent financial statements to show the org wasn't still receiving excessive contributions.

Or is it the case that they were ordered to do so, by Wall Street creditors?

Virtually every single "new adjustment" emanating from Brooklyn/Warwick in recent years has been money-driven. Either to save it or to get it.

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Can Today's JW Logically Explain Their Beliefs?

by minimus in

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when i was a jw, i relished explaining my beliefs and why we had the truth!

lol.

todays witness has no clue , in my opinion..

The Fall Guy

When I was active, I was delighted to have the opportunity to discuss the scriptural teachings I had learned. Ominously, even J.W. elders who put themselves in a public place at a trolley will very quickly end a conversation and refuse to discuss any of the org's scriptural/organizational corruptions. They'll claim it's because they're not prepared to argue or debate.

As moreconfusedthanever said, they'll terminate the discussion by saying you should visit their God-blessed website for answers.

Every J.W. who uses this as a get-out-of jail-free-card is flagrantly rejecting the Biblical command for Christians to respectfully defend/explain their beliefs to anyone who demands a reason for such beliefs. (1 Peter 3:15)

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2017 Annual Meeting

by Jules Saturn in

this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

The Fall Guy

C'mon everybody, it's wonderful to see how the great increase is decreasing so quickly now, and fulfilling Isaiah 2:2 "In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah [the org] will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it [the org] will be raised up above the hills, And to it [the org] all the nations will stream."

The charlatans in up-state New York - the WTBTS - are going out of the publishing business at warp-speed, because that cash-cow is suffering from rigor mortis.

Electronic publications in exchange for electronic donations - that's the new game in Dub-Town.

Schadenfreude on a Saturday night!

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I'm starting a Counter-Watchtower magazine

by Counter-Watchtower in

im starting a counter-watchtower magazine for everyone to give to their jw friends and family or just to give to those that come to your door.

the first issue is about the history of pyramidology of c.t.

russel and under the start of rutherford along with some other things like pointing out the fact that no one knows the translators of the nwt or writers of the watchtower, "the two very things relied on to teach you".. its writen in such a way to be very repectful but to make the reader think, and hopefully the light come on.

The Fall Guy

Hi COUNTER-WATCHTOWER, welcome.

I hope you have some success with your venture. Not many people will want to share their email with you due to anonymity reasons, (me included) but the PM facility here will do the job just as well for you.

You have a PM.

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U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

by BluesBrother in

while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

- patient information" .

now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

The Fall Guy

The NHS site https://www.shotuk.org (Serious Hazards Of Transfusion) once cited various references to failings in blood management and the subsequent consequences.

By law, U.K. hospital staff must now record every occasion when an instance of I.B.C.T. (incorrect blood component transfused) occurs. Unfortunately, such mistakes happen far more frequently than they should. (human error)

Transfusion-Related Acute Lung Injury (TRALI) is very often fatal. (only 5ml of IBCT can result in TRALI)

If the professionals have serious concerns about blood.........................

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Just Got Dubbed..

by snugglebunny in

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friends

so there i was earlier today, enjoying a spot of lunch in a pleasant little cafe whilst out shopping, when up came a fella i vaguely recognised from the dim and distant past just as i was tucking into my highland soup with bread roll and butter..

"i would never ignore you you know".. "eh?

what" i ventured wondering wtf is this all about.

The Fall Guy

So he wasn't a broth of a boy, then?

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Jehovah (As Taught By JWs) Offers A Bum Deal

by pale.emperor in

i thought this during my wake up.

if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.

some would even say a con.

The Fall Guy

~~Jehovahs~~ - to be more exact, the org's promise (and requirements) for the faithful. Corporate diktats.

Much of what the org tells the faithful is not based on scriptures anyway.

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Who goes to heaven?

by theplains in

hello,i found this on the jw site.https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/go-to-heaven/it says:"jesus said: "no man has ascended into heaven.

(john 3:13) he thus showedthat good people who died before him, such as abraham, moses, job, and david,did not go to heaven.

(acts 2:29, 34).

The Fall Guy

Aren't there scriptures which say the righteous will inherit the earth, and live forever upon it?

No heaven for the righteous, then.

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Do not think the end will come?

by Akid48 in

thats somthing i see thats asked in my kingdom hall if you want to go get more than 2 years in collage.thing in some one asking that to me or etc i cant say any thing or that would show that i dont believe.. i hate when some one askes me that when i try to plan ahead when it comes to what job i want.what job would help me hold my own but no god will give if you put him first.i dont believe in god even when i did i never buyed into that.. it seems you cant get away from the question im only 13 and i get that question theres no getting away from it..

The Fall Guy

Next time someone asks you that question, just nod and say, "It's got to come some time, but the Bible says that even Jesus didn't know when the end would be. Didn't he give us the principle at Luke 14:28 that we should be prepared in life? Shouldn't I apply that and prepare for my life? I don't want to live off other people like some do."

Take it easy and keep learning. You've got your thinking skills developing.

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Is there anything good JWs taught you still benefit from?

by venus in

some years ago, i attended a jw wedding.

marriage speaker said something which changed my life for the better, and it helps me even now.

he told the couple: “the very make up of man and woman is such that conflicts can often arise between you.

The Fall Guy

Thanks to the treatment and seriously bad attitudes of some elders, (individually & collectively) I began to examine and research the org and its teachings. Pandora's box then opened up for me. I'm truly grateful.